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  Has anyone been having trouble with setting the bone rest
positions from layout 4.0 Intel Pre-Release?

  I AM!

This is what I do:

i move the bone to the position. Key the position
I set bone rest length
I set the rotation and key it
I go to the object skeleton menu and click on "Activate Bone"

but..the bone does not seem to affect the object correctly..it
moves the object instead of bending it...

I go to the object skeleton menu and click on bone rest
position..it says 0,0,0..although the bone does not lie at
0,0,0 in the layout screen...the only way to get the bones
working is to manually enter the bone rest position..

uhh...is this the new way for bones? I remember it used to be
easier..thanx for any advice

Adam



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From: [e-mail] (Mike Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How can I get AVI or MPEG file From LightWave Windows Version?
Date: 17 Aug 1995 18:03:44 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

: I don't see any way of saving animations from the current version of lightwave.

: Is there a way to take mult. Targa files and convert them to a AVI/MPEG file?



    I use Compushow2000... a good DOS-based shareware graphics
    conversion/display program.  I don't like the fact that it is
    DOS, and am looking for a good windows program, but the
    strong point of CS2000 is that it reads (correctly) IFF 24
    files, and can do batch processing!

    I have turned IFF 24's into bmp files, which then load
    directly, as a sequence, into VidEdit, a Microsoft Video for
    Windows tool commonly available.  Then I save it as a .avi.

    Mike

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I have a 32 meg 60 ns simm for sale no parity $800.00
or trade?


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Chan)
Subject: Re: NEWTEK BLOWS IT AT SIGGRAPH!!!!!!!!! THE SHMUCKS!
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robert hood ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Bob Lindabury ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : What a bunch of idiots.  I haven't seen so much useless prattle over who's
: : 3D package is better than who's ever.
: :
: : How about you all get a life and animate something other than your useless
: : opinions on what software package is better.
: :

: Way to go, Bob.  That's how you make friends and influence people...

: Regards,                      |||
: Bob                         ^(===)^
: -------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------------------------
: Bob Hood            | The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
:                     | unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world
: Work: 303-730-1324  | to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the
: Home: 303-980-8392  | unreasonable man.    -- George Bernard Shaw
: [e-mail]    `-------------------------------------------------------
: [e-mail]           ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/bh/bhood/www/bhood.html
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, I believe the correct title is, "How to WIN Friends and
Influence People."

Just thought I'd clear that up for ya, Bob :).

*chuckle*

-Steve C.
--


__________________________________________________
Stephen C. Chan
Creative Director
Chanime Interactive
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From: [e-mail] (Norvell L. Maples)
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Subject: FOR SALE
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For Sale
Amiga 4000/040 w/ Toaster4000 card 3.5 upgrade
dps III
Seagate st32A3A HD
Seagate st3144A HD
1internal floppy
1external floppy
1 Syquest 44 Removeable Media (curently not installed) with 4 disk
(sold as is) (have not used it in about a year)

asking $1200 or best offer

send Email to

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Why does Impact cost so much?
Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:30:17 GMT
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NPeirce ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Why does Impact, a plug-in,  cost over half as much as the entire LW
: program?

Mostly because it's just sooo damn cool!  It's not a plug-in either...
totally standalone program with a pretty decent user interface.

--
                                     -David Warner



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Leonard)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NEWTEK BLOWS IT AT SIGGRAPH!!!!!!!!! THE SHMUCKS!
Date: 17 Aug 1995 21:43:38 GMT
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In article <40hoqs$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (V
Teahan) wrote:

[]>Chris Minshall ([e-mail]) wrote:
[]>Yes man thats it your hit the nail on the head. Autodesk just want money,
[]>no one is going to shell out for a thing thats is above average when they
[]>can get a brilliant porgram for a few thousand cheaper.

That is YOUR opinion... which program is better.   No one has the true
judgment on things like this unless they've used both concurretnly for a 1
year period.  That's what I go by, and anyone else making comments is
completely ignorable.

Just like PC/Mac wars....  If you've used both for over a year, and have
an opinion, then its respectable!  (Even though we all know the Mac is
better... ;-)      NOTE THE SMILEY!

Bill Leonard
[e-mail]
______________________________________________________________________________
                                cyber.lab g.f.x.
                                Orlando, Florida
                                  407.425.5722
   3D Animation € Modeling € Special Effects € Station ID Packages € Pre-Viz
                   http://www.magicnet.net/~bill_l/top.html
______________________________________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail] (Alan Chan)
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Subject: Re: Setting Bone Position in 4.0 Pre-Release
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In article <4114sh$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...

>i move the bone to the position. Key the position
>I set bone rest length
>I set the rotation and key it
>I go to the object skeleton menu and click on "Activate Bone"
>
>but..the bone does not seem to affect the object correctly..it
>moves the object instead of bending it...
>
>I go to the object skeleton menu and click on bone rest
>position..it says 0,0,0..although the bone does not lie at
>0,0,0 in the layout screen...the only way to get the bones
>working is to manually enter the bone rest position..
>
>uhh...is this the new way for bones? I remember it used to be
>easier..thanx for any advice
>
>Adam
>
>

Use 'r' from the keyboard to activate the bone, it also enters the
coordinates for the rest position. Plus. if you only have one bone
in the object, there is no reference bone, so when you move the
bone the whole object goes with it (unless you have Limited
Region activated).

Alan Chan
Vision Digital


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J Eric Chard ([e-mail]) wrote:

:     So it's flashing, flashing, flashing, so's I whap it a good one across
:     the top.
:     Boots right up.
:     AMIGA FOREVER!


Hah!  Electronics maintenance rule #37...when all else fails....kick it!

--
                                     -David Warner


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Super-User (root) wrote:
: Yes, they used wind forces to blow the particles out of the ships way... and
: they used Alias to do it.

That is incorrect they used Wavefront to do it.

Dave


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Coleman)
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Subject: Best display card for NT/LW4 on dual pentium PCIbus?
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 We are upgrading our motherboard to a dual 100mhz Pentium, and I'm looking
for the best PCI displayboard/driver combination to run LW4 under NT.
Consideration has been between 4meg PCI versions of Matrox Impression+  and
Diamond Viper pro. Any suggestions?

P.S. Did anyone see any affordable GLNNT display boards at SiGgraph that might
work well as a regular display card as well?

thanks,

TC

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Thank you for the help every one! I still haven't tested BNT-tape yet,
but the docs say that it works with the 8505, so I guess I wont have TOO
many problems now.

-Aaron Estrada





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Subject: Re: benchmarks on alpha 166 mh
Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:28:00 GMT
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John Crookshank ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Raptor3 DEC Alpha 266Mhz: same settings, 22 seconds.

Whoops...guess I should have read all the responses before asking about the
Raptor3 benchmark.  Are you running a 21064 or a 21164 Alpha?


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                                     -David Warner



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From: [e-mail] (Gunnar Klauberg)
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Subject: Re: LWPRO Magazine?
Date: 18 Aug 1995 11:16:40 GMT
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Jeffrey C. Jones ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <40pfdn$[e-mail]>
: [e-mail] (JBooth411) writes:

: >      What I hate is that LWPro ocationaly decides to reprint something
: > from Video Toaster User - I mean, really, who gets LWPro who doesn't get
: > VTU?

People in europe, like our customers! ... why should they get VTU, there
is no VT in PAL-Version.


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Darren Metcalfe <[e-mail]> writes:

>[e-mail] (J Eric Chard) wrote:

>>    So it's flashing, flashing, flashing, so's I whap it a good one across
>>    the top.
>>
>>    Boots right up.
>>
>>    AMIGA FOREVER!

>Cool. Sounds a bit like either a loose ROM, a loose cpu card or a loose
drive cable.
>My 2000 lived for 4 years with one screw in it (top middle rear), every
once in
>awhile I'd pop the top and reseat anything I could get at. Preventative
maintenance.

Hey! Since we're talking Amy's, that should be "pre-emptive maintenance" ;-)

>--
>Darren Metcalfe
>[e-mail]

Mans Engman ([e-mail])



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From: [e-mail] (Digitix Publishing Int.)
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Subject: Re: Animation Playback on PC.
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone saw or heard of any about the Fast Movie Line w/ Motion-Jpeg option?
>I need a way to play my anims back in real time to VHS and can't afford the par board.
>I'm running a P100 with 24 meg ram, Lightwave 4.0 pre-release, and a Diamond Stealth
>2 meg Vram.  The Fast movie line claims to do 30 fps full screen playback and recording
>I'm sure its nothing like a par board but I just need something to play back anims to video
>tape for right now.  I'm sorta of a Lightwave hobbyist and don't have 2,000 for a par board.

>Thanks

> Tim Hendrickson

Hi Tim,


Since I live in Europe and Fast is a German Company, I've heard about
their new cards. The quality looks quite decent, but it's not good
enough. Those cards work in half PAL/NTSC resolution and as soon as
you are going to put your anims out to tape, the images are being
stretched to fit into the proper resolution. The quality is good
enough for previews but surely not work real work.

Renderman





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From: [e-mail] (Dan J. Rockwell)
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: A lot of people seem to be complaining about NewTek, and it is rather
: difficult for me to watch. I have zero say or influence at NewTek anymore,
: and for me the writing was on the wall at the NAB show this past April. I
: posted some stuff online at the time, and I got some SERIOUS flack for it.

Ahhh yes, NEWTEK was very touchy those days back around NAB.  I too felt the
pressure of NewTek as a dealer rep.  I guess speaking my personal ideals
didnt fly with them to well.  In the end I was asked to "say something
nice".  I remember sending NewTek email to the fact that I am Dan Rockwell
first, and sales slave second.  If I dont approve something I say it.  I
sell 30k CG's and don't approve to them, I used the cursed Destiny system
and made sure Sony knew it had problems.  All too often we get tangled in
the web of security and information.  It's too bad, all we intend is to
educate and express what we believe in, afterall we're all customers.

: How serious? VTU severed any ties to me, and pulled a (very favorable)
: review of my training tapes. The company that was doing my training tapes
: decided (under pressure from NewTek) not to do tapes with me anymore. Area
: 51, the company I work for and that is doing some -killer- effects work
: using LightWave was threatened with having it's beta status pulled. In
: short, my entire livelyhood was threatened - and by companies that I had
: either started or help develop. No fun at all. It caused a GREAT deal of
: personal stress in my life, and was made doubly frustrating because I
: liked a lot of these people. and I really have always wanted NewTek to do
: well. In fact, that was my life's goal for many years.


Now that really sucks!  You made toaster training tapes like no other, and
I'm sure made someone millions just sellin them.  For them to "repay" you by
pullin you out of the picture is WRONG for the reasons you've listed.  That
bites big time.  It's like they tracked you whereever you went malicously to
ensure that you were "hurt".  Thats not the sign of a decent company.  Do
they have something to hide?  Too often NewTek takes critism like great
artists and inventors, - you dont like it.. DIE!!!!!!   Ok, you can do that
when you're it for a bit, then you gotta remember its me, and her, and him
that pay the bill, we dont like it, change it, make it better, or JUST
LISTEN.  Drop that communication, and we're gone.  Open minded, and build up
a relationship.  I'm a huge fan of the old toaster, Flyer burnt me
unfortuntely.  It's too bad, I went from sane to insane in a few months.
Now I sell Avids, religiously use lightwave on a pc, and watch these minds
of NewTek struggle to keep alive.  They had guts and wild creativity before,
maybe they can bring that magic to the pc.

: But I couldn't lend my name or approval to some of the things I saw
: happening at NewTek.  At the time I posted after NAB, a lot of people
: thought I was a crazy reactionary. I've turned out to be closer to a smart
: analyst. NewTek has really lost the one thing that was it's biggest asset
: - the loyalty and good feelings of its customers. People just don't trust
: them anymore. They have been acting like a company in trouble, and people
: can smell that stench of death a mile away and it scares.

Well Lee you've always been good to us.  You've actually made contact with
"the customers" and gotten first hand experiences with the people that use
NewTek's technology.  You have a real down to earth understanding.  In many
cases you hold more power than NewTek when it comes to exposure and dealing
with the customer and knowing what he/she wants.  Thats real material there.
You're like NewTek's feedback generator with a will to ravage and cause
change.  Thats what I see frightening them.  People know you, see you and
afliate NewTek with you, even when you arent with them anymore.

Seems to me NewTek should stop wasting its time coming after you and worry
about, Avid, Media 100, Sony, Panasonoic, etc etc etc etc  AND figure out
waht they plan to bring to the table NAB96.

Dan Rockwell
----www.infinet.com/~djr

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Subject: Re: benchmarks on alpha 166 mh
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Emiliano Stesinach ([e-mail]) wrote:

: 101 Seconds and NO DISK SWAPPING with 16 megs of ram (and i have not
: BURNED leds on my Bushey, Virtual Construction's alpha ... actually is
: pretty good made one !

I know you're all sick of bench-marks, but I'd like to know how a 275mhz
Raptor3 w/21064 Alpha chip and 64megs RAM would perform on this particular
scene....just in case one happens to show up on my doorstep within the next
week or two.  =)

--
                                     -David Warner



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John Foust ([e-mail]) wrote:

: As for Lee, his life with NewTek and VTU is just as complex and
: complicated as every other person who was captured into their
: gravitational well.  Do you really expect a *simple* easy-to-
: understand summary of such a complex series of events?

Of course not...I've received private mail from various other "industry"
people telling me that the break-up between Lee and NewTek involved a lot
stuff that hasn't (and shouldn't) be discussed in a public forum...I don't
know any of the details and don't need to.

It just seems rather extreme to me that an obviously amicable relationship
between Mr. Stranahan and NewTek should take such a horrible turn for the
worse...so much so that certain people at NewTek take it upon themselves to
try and destroy Lee's livelihood and obviously exerted pressure on others to
cut their ties with him....unless there's something BIG that we don't know
about and Lee pissed off a lot of people all at once.  It's not really any
of my business though....just surprising that he's been sorta "blacklisted".


: Heaven forbid that a LightWave animator be forced to the lowly
: status of Customer, one who pays their money, gets the current
: version of the shipping product, and takes their chances.  :-)

Is this the situation at Area51 though?  I mean, what do you think would
happen to these guys if NewTek pulled the rug out from under them and they
had to wait until the final release of 4.0 hit the streets?  Would they have
been able to continue production on the current projects they are contracted
for?  Most likely.  But then again, maybe Area51 wouldn't have gotten the
"Space" contract at all if it became known that NewTek was on less than
friendly terms with them because of the comments of one of Area51's
employees.

It's sorta like, what if Mojo or someone else from Foundation Imaging were
online and they made a comment that NewTek wasn't performing quite as well
as they had hoped for?  Would NewTek suddenly threaten F.I. with the loss of
beta-release support?  Would Avid no longer accept articles written by Mojo
for publication in VTU or LWPro?  Would Mojo's new video-tape cease to
exist?  I wonder.....maybe THIS is why nobody from Foundation is online.


Perhaps this would be a good time to mention that my comments here may or
may NOT be my opinion....I wouldn't want my copy of LW4.0 Alpha to get
"lost" in the mail or something.  ;-)

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>The most "practical" way I can think of is using the "export dxf" function.
The
>DXF file that it generates are kind of screwed up, but you can clean them up
>and subdivide them in LW modeler.  I like the AM modeler. It uses spline
>patches. You can load an image behind the wireframe and use it as a template.
>It works better in AM than in LW. The image is in color.
>
>-Aaron Estrada

We talked about that possibility. With the object replace routines in place in
4.0, this may work out OK, but to utilize the strength of AM, which is its
character animation capability, the work must be done in AM and then output as
a LW scene file (which is unlikely, seeing that they operate on very different
principles) or as an object sequence. An object sequence makes it iompractical
for the user to go in and clean up each object by hand.. yuk. I think I'd
rather wait for a built-in conversion routine. .

Alan Chan
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In article <4112tm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dan J. Rockwell) writes:

>Seems to me NewTek should stop wasting its time coming after you and worry
>about, Avid, Media 100, Sony, Panasonoic, etc etc etc etc  AND figure out
>waht they plan to bring to the table NAB96.

>Dan Rockwell
>----www.infinet.com/~djr

No.  They should hire him as an independant consultant.



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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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Subject: Re: NEWTEK BLOWS IT AT SIGGRAPH!!!!!!!!! THE SHMUCKS!
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In article <40updi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () says:
>
>What the hell is going on here?  Since when did expressing a personal
>opinion merit these sort of responses?!  NewTek is NOT MicroSloth...they
>can't snap their fingers and wish you away to the cornfield because you
>said something that somebody who works there didn't like!
>
>I'm rather amazed at all this though and I hope you don't catch additional
>flack for posting your above message publicly....this kind of shit really
>makes me wonder what's going on with this country lately.  Do we Americans
>have the right to free speech or not?

Of course there is free speech.  Most people even defend it.  However,
everyone makes daily decisions based on someone's speech.  If you
don't like what someone says, you don't have to do business with
them.  Simple enough!  Not a vast conspiracy, either.  Trust me,
if you want to deal closely with Microsoft or Apple, you need to
buy a set of industrial-strength knee-pads.

Is it unrealistic to say out loud that if you don't engage in a
certain amount of diplomacy, you might endanger a business relationship?

As for Lee, his life with NewTek and VTU is just as complex and
complicated as every other person who was captured into their
gravitational well.  Do you really expect a *simple* easy-to-
understand summary of such a complex series of events?  Such is
the stuff of juries, judges and testimony.

Heaven forbid that a LightWave animator be forced to the lowly
status of Customer, one who pays their money, gets the current
version of the shipping product, and takes their chances.  :-)

- John

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Subject: Re: (Facts)  What's happening to Amiga dealers.
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In article <410av0$[e-mail]>, Jeff Hoffman <[e-mail]> says:
>
>As most of you already know, the most recent copy of LW-PRO features an
>EDITOR'S MESSAGE including the complaints of John Gross with his own PC
>dealer and something as simple as a tape drive.
>
>"I've found that dealing with PC vendors is like dealing with car repair
>people.  It sucks ..." he writes.

By comparison, I buy my PCs mostly from a mom-and-pop (well, just
pop) clone maker in Madison.  I've also bought them from Gateway,
and one or two from classified ads.

But I buy all my PC and Mac computer stuff from Computer
Discount Warehouse in Chicago.  They have great prices,
almost everything is in stock, and it's overnight shipping
via UPS ground to SE Wisconsin.  In a pinch, I'll pay a
10-20% premium and drive to CompUSA.

On the other hand, I *don't* go to a dealer to pick their
brains, then turn around and purchase elsewhere.  If I'm relying
on someone else's experience, I try to compensate them for it.
Wouldn't the small computer dealer business be wonderful
if everyone did that?

For example, when I pressed the CDROMs for Syndesis, I went to
a service bureau who certainly earned their cut, but I wasn't
getting the most rock-bottom prices in that business.

Don't apologize for not having the lowest prices.  Instead,
I think small, value-added computer dealerships need to be a
bit less open-armed when it comes to the brain-pickers
who get advice from you, then go home to order mail-order.

What's so crazy about turning away a customer when it's
clear they're just shopping for price and not service?

- John

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In article <411elq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () says:
>
>It just seems rather extreme to me that an obviously amicable relationship
>between Mr. Stranahan and NewTek should take such a horrible turn for the
>worse...so much so that certain people at NewTek take it upon themselves to
>try and destroy Lee's livelihood and obviously exerted pressure on others to
>cut their ties with him....unless there's something BIG that we don't know
>about and Lee pissed off a lot of people all at once.  It's not really any
>of my business though....just surprising that he's been sorta "blacklisted".

As you said, we don't know the whole story.  But there's another
implicit assumption here that bugs me even more: that in order
to really make it as a LightWave-based production company, you
have to be a Cool Friend.

Now there is certainly a clique that surrounds the makers of every
3D package.  There are Cool Friends everywhere.

But with most other 3D packages, the Cool Friends are running the actual,
shipping software.  There are no interim slightly-better versions
that aren't available to anyone who wants them.  (For example,
there are patch bug-fixes for 3D Studio, but you can get them
from your dealer.)  In my eyes, this is not a good situation
for NewTek.  It alienates many people who can't get on the
Cool Friends list.

So what Lee is saying is that he can't survive as a LW animator
unless he's got full-fledged Cool Friend status, where he can
get his bug reports fixed in a matter of days or weeks, and
his series-specific enhancements implemented when possible,
months or years before the general public can get them.

Now I don't mean to pick on Lee here - this is certainly the
situation for a number of Cool Friends.  This is *what they all
had to do* in order to do serious real-world work with LightWave.

>It's sorta like, what if Mojo or someone else from Foundation Imaging were
>online and they made a comment that NewTek wasn't performing quite as well
>as they had hoped for?

So, if you want to be a Cool Friend and get all those interim
versions, maybe then you have to play that game.  Perhaps that means
making certain criticisms in private instead of public, I don't know,
but I'm sure you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

- John

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Just got off the phone with Gail at Newtek.  Newtek has decided to extend
the $149 Lightwave 3.5 Stand Alone upgrade program to the end of August.
You have to pre-order before then; they'll give you an order number.

Michael
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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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On 17-Aug-95 14:49:47, Greg L. Kimnach ([e-mail]) posted:

> In article <40vvv8$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
> (John Ferrel) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (John Ferrel)
>>Subject: Sync input for Toaster?
>>Date: 17 Aug 1995 17:58:00 GMT

>>Was I dreaming, or did I see an ad somewhere for a Toaster hardware
>>plug-in that supplies a sync signal (Black burst?) to the toaster
>>and frees up the #1 input?  If you have seen this, PLEASE send me a
>>note telling me where.  I can't seem to find it now!


> i recall seeing this advertised in VTU's "new products"
> section....sorry, i  only have the august and september issues handy.
> it should be in one of the  previous three issues (may-july 95).  i'll
> check tonight and get the info  posted tomorrow.

The product he is referring to is the "Sync Trap" by PreVue Technologies.
Costs about $35. Gives you an extra BNC to connect sync/blackburst to, and
totally frees up Toaster input #1 for normal video use. They shoulda been
made this way from the start, IMHO.


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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: NEWTEK BLOWS IT AT SIGGRAPH!!!!!!!!! THE SHMUCKS!
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On 17-Aug-95 18:54:44, robert hood ([e-mail]) posted:


> I agree with you on this point, John, but the laments I'm hearing
> are over the fact that a small, personable company with a loyal
> (and in some cases, rabid) following is starting to adopt some
> distasteful business practices reminiscent of those larger
> corporations that require the knee protection.  The gist I'm
> getting is that LightWave animators have NOT felt like customers,
> but rather family members.

No, the problem really is that there are some management people who have
never been in the software business before, and just don't understand all
the issues. However, NewTek has just issued a new update program that's
realistic this time around, although the special offer expires SOON.

Posted on NewTek's BBS today was the new upgrade policy:

Amiga LW standalone to Amiga LW 4.x - $149, through Sept 31, 1995.
Amiga LW standalone to Amiga LW 4.x - $498 after Sept 31, 1995.

Any platform LW standalone to any platform LW (excluding SGI):
Through August 31, 1995 - $149.
After August 31, 1995 - $498.

These upgrades are only available directly from NewTek.

Toaster owners still have the same options as before:
Toaster 4.0 upgrade, including LW Toaster 4.0 - Will be around $495 street
priced when released.


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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: benchmarks on alpha 166 mh
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On 18-Aug-95 07:26:01, davewarner ([e-mail]) posted:

> Emiliano Stesinach ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: 101 Seconds and NO DISK SWAPPING with 16 megs of ram (and i have not
>: BURNED leds on my Bushey, Virtual Construction's alpha ... actually is
>:  pretty good made one !

> I know you're all sick of bench-marks, but I'd like to know how a 275mhz
> Raptor3 w/21064 Alpha chip and 64megs RAM would perform on this
> particular scene....just in case one happens to show up on my doorstep
> within the next week or two.  =)

While not an exact benchmark, the 21064/275 should do about half as fast as
a 21164/266, so it should do the above in about 40-45 seconds or so. I had
previously benchmarked the 21164/266 at 22 seconds as per his settings on
this scene.


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On 18-Aug-95 07:28:00, davewarner ([e-mail]) posted:

> John Crookshank ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: Raptor3 DEC Alpha 266Mhz: same settings, 22 seconds.

> Whoops...guess I should have read all the responses before asking about
> the Raptor3 benchmark.  Are you running a 21064 or a 21164 Alpha?

The 266 is only available in a 21164 configuration. Generally, it's about
twice as fast as a 21064/275Mhz.

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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: Amiga: keeps on rollin'
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On 18-Aug-95 07:50:24, davewarner ([e-mail]) posted:

> J Eric Chard ([e-mail]) wrote:

>:     So it's flashing, flashing, flashing, so's I whap it a good one
>: across
>:     the top.
>:     Boots right up.
>:     AMIGA FOREVER!


> Hah!  Electronics maintenance rule #37...when all else fails....kick it!

Rule #38: Make sure the device is NEVER between you and the door to get out
when you use Rule #37. ;-)


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (robert hood) says:
>
>Ever have someone who you thought cared about you suddenly, deliberately
>forget who you are?

Well, it all depends on "why", doesn't it?  Again, we don't know
the whole story between Lee and NewTek.  It could be a zillion
things compounded that you and I and the fencepost do not
understand.  Life is complex!  Relationships (even business-related
ones) can be confusing and complex!

Still, we're talking about someone who's upset that they were
demoted from "cool friend" to mere "customer."  LightWave didn't
stop working when someone declared Lee 'persona non grata.'

Yes, I think that sucks, and that they should at least respect
the work he's done in the past, and the good promotion he's
done for their products.  But that doesn't necessarily prevent
them from wanting to limit their support in the future, if
Lee's done something they didn't like.

To me, the larger issue is more interesting:  now we've got an
example of someone who says they can't do business unless
they're on the Cool Friend list, that unless they can run a version
of LightWave that's not available to the general public, they
can't do all the cool things they do.  What does that say about
NewTek's policies or about LightWave as a product?

- John

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In article <40vvv8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Ferrel) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (John Ferrel)
>Subject: Sync input for Toaster?
>Date: 17 Aug 1995 17:58:00 GMT

>Was I dreaming, or did I see an ad somewhere for a Toaster hardware
>plug-in that supplies a sync signal (Black burst?) to the toaster
>and frees up the #1 input?  If you have seen this, PLEASE send me a
>note telling me where.  I can't seem to find it now!

>TIA,
> John

i recall seeing this advertised in VTU's "new products" section....sorry, i
only have the august and september issues handy.  it should be in one of the
previous three issues (may-july 95).  i'll check tonight and get the info
posted tomorrow.

greg

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Perez)
Subject: New Era Press: Shysters???
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Has ANYONE gotten their copy of the book "Exploring Lightwave 3D!" I got
a letter from the possible scam-artists at New Era Press a MONTH ago that
the book would be shipping "to you in one week." My credit card has been
billed, and as you can imagine (bad word to use on a LW newsgroup) I have
yet to see the book. I know it's been delayed because of LW 4.0, but the
letter said it was comin'. Of course New Era's phone line is
convieniently busy at all times.

Does anyone have the lowdown on this?? If I have to call my card company
and request a chargeback, I want to get it done as soon as possible. Thanks.

Joe Perez

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: The current upgrade price is $149 plus shipping and handling. However, a
: fly in the ointment is that NewTek does not currently know what the
: shipping and handling will cost... So if you call up to find out what the
: current total cost of the upgrade is, they won't be able to tell you. I
: have to wait until Monday to find out how much money to send them so that
: I can meet this ridiculous deadline they have set.


I ordered my upgrade today, and was promptly called back by the person
who took my order - the shipping costs are as follows:

Standard UPS $10
2 Day Air $20
Next Day $30

Hope that helps!


Paul
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On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Joe Perez wrote:

> Has ANYONE gotten their copy of the book "Exploring Lightwave 3D!" I got
> a letter from the possible scam-artists at New Era Press a MONTH ago that
> the book would be shipping "to you in one week." My credit card has been
> billed, and as you can imagine (bad word to use on a LW newsgroup) I have
> yet to see the book. I know it's been delayed because of LW 4.0, but the
> letter said it was comin'. Of course New Era's phone line is
> convieniently busy at all times.


I haven't seen their book, but we have our own and it WILL be shipping in
just a couple weeks.

--Ad Follows--

For those of you who didn't make it to Siggraph, there is a new Lightwave
book we are releasing very shortly written by Alan Chan.  THe book is
very well written and covers how to set up some very popular scenes.
It's called "The FX Kit for Lightwave" and is even spiral bound for easy
referencing.  It's over 300 pages and just a few of the chapters cover
imitating
nature, space effects, Lighting, Bones and IK plus a lot more.  We were
hoping the book would be ready by now, but it looks like it will be
shipping in two weeks (It IS at the printers as we speak).  The price is
$34.95 and you can order it by calling Lightspeed at 805-726-3545.  If
you want, feel free to place an advance order now (we won't bill the card
until we ship it).  We are only printing 100 books to satisfy the initial
order as we will be going through a different printer when we mass
print.  There will probably be a delay in between the printings, but
those who order now will get one shipped on Sept 1st.  In case you lose
the number, there will be a full page ad for the book in the October
issue of VTU, right next to Lightspeed's ad.

Dealer and Distributor inquiries are welcome.  Call or Fax to
805-726-3544


Manuel Coats
LIGHTSPEED



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From: [e-mail] (Jas R Dunn)
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Does anybody know of a reliable DXF to Lightwave conversion program?  I
have an older version which can't load DXF.
Thanks
Jason Dunn
[e-mail]

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Does anyone know how to get an AVI file out of the Windows version of LightWave?

Dave Biltcliffe


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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:

>From the "Things you really shouldn't do to your harddrive" department . . .

>Just to see if it could be done, I cranked up the virtual memory on my 4mb
>486-33 laptop (Compaq Concerto) to 21.6mb and proceded to see if the "Blade
>Runner" scene would render.  I had tried this earlier with a smaller amount of
>virtual memory and received an uncerimonious Win32s error.

>Ir can be done.  It took 14,482 seconds (frame 54, all defaults except field
>rendering and segment size [550,000], file was saved).  That's 4hrs 1min 12
>secs.

>Oh - there was some drive activity while rendering :^)


Don't dispair, I have managed to get my Raptor 3 (266MHz 21164) to
render for 3:48:20 (thats 13,700 seconds) on a single frame.



Morgan Price
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>The $149 upgrade deadline has been extended to Aug. 31st for Amiga>PC
>upgrades and Sept. 31st for Amiga>Amiga upgrades.  The difference in dates
>reflects the release estimates for both platforms.  After which, late
>upgraders pay $499 instead of fullprice.  This is fair.  NewTek does
>respond, I guess, when the natives get restless-enough.

  And whats the current stats on Amiga Toaster upgrades (4.0)? I've lost
  track and don't really care to call NT untill i know it's out unless I
  know I can save some $$$$ doing so. :)

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I've found a DOS program named VFD that does an excellent job of
converting a bunch of numbered TGA frames into an animation.  I believe
it also does some other stuff.

It should be available on Simtel.  I think that's where I got it.

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Stay off the LW newsgroup asshole.

If anyone else wants to report this pirate to his sys admin, be my guest.

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[e-mail] wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
: > In article <Pine.SV4.3.91.950815220533.16881D-100000@cello> Manuel Coats <[e-mail]> writes:
: >>From: Manuel Coats <[e-mail]>
: >>Subject: Animation Master at Sigraph
: >>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:12:39 -0700
: >
: >
: >>> : Does anyone have any thoughts about the Hash, Inc. "Animation Master"?
: >>>
: >>> If you are still interested I have written a miniFAQ on the package
: >>> including it's cheaper sibling, Martin Hash' 3D Animation (MHA). It's
: >>> built from the ground up to be a character animation package and modeler.
: >>> On top of that it has a powerful, unlimited mapping decaler. Since it was
: >>> just chosen over Alias PowerAnimator for one of my contracts, I'd say
: >>> it's not too bad for 3D graphics. If you would like to see some of the
: >>> -Steve C.
: >>------------------------------------------------------------------
: >
: >>I almost purchased the siggraph special (I think it was $199 or $299) but
: >>came to find out that the special priced package did not include motion
: >>blur or field rendering.  TO get those features you needed to pop $700
: >>for the full version.  It was kind of sneaky, as even when I asked
: >>directly he tried to blow it off (he was a VERY good speaker BTW).  If I
: >>had more time on my hands though, I would still think that the program is
: >>worth the $699 full price just for the character animation features I
: >>saw.  Decaling the surface was cool too.
: >>
: >>Manuel Coats
: >>LIGHTSPEED: The Video Magazine for the Lightwave Enthusiast
: >>** Issue #2 has shipped (over 100 minutes in length) **
: >
: > I tend to agree as I was interested in the SGI version, but after seeing the
: > character stuff at the Wavey awards I was impressed at the ability of lightwave
: > to do character stuff. I was not impressed by the rendering engine either which
: > is like 3D studio i.e. too scanline looking.Of course what do you want at that
: > price? Splines are much better for characters though.

: That was one of my bigger grumps about Animation Master. Lightwave has a
: superior rendering engine, and there seems to be no practical way to export
: work done in AM to Lightwave.

: Alan Chan
: Vision Digital

The most "practical" way I can think of is using the "export dxf" function. The DXF file that it generates are kind of screwed up, but you can clean them up
and subdivide them in LW modeler.  I like the AM modeler. It uses spline
patches. You can load an image behind the wireframe and use it as a template.
It works better in AM than in LW. The image is in color.

-Aaron Estrada


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From: [e-mail] (Hardin Brett Arvid)
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Des McPherson (des_mcpherson@cl_63smtp_gw.chinalake.navy.mil) wrote:
| After spending a few hours of intense modeling work yesterday(and yes, I
| did not save anything while working), a strange thing happened. Modeler
| up and disappeared.  POOF!, it was gone.  No little icon in the corner
| to click and get it back, nothing to "Switch To", zippo, nada, nothing.
| All I see is the program manager as if I had just booted up.

| And of course, searching for the word "Rapture" in NT help yielded
| nothing.  I feel duped.  I thought NT was crash proof, stable ect.

| If it happens again, is there anything I can do to get it back.  Is
| there some hidden place in NT where programs hide on a whim?

When LightWave fails to locate the Dongle it rather abruptly (and very
inconsiderately of it) goes away.  Death, gone, toast. Doesn't matter
that you've been working on something for three days straight, haven't
saved it, and are a bonified registered user of the program.  POOF!


You really need to make sure the dongle is secure, stable, and not
liable to be complicated by printer devices.

I have had this happen on the Amiga a few times, mostly due to printer
conflicts.  Luckily nothing important was lost, but there you go!


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